[mnet-devel] Grid Of Trust -- clustering

Some Guy amichrisde at yahoo.de
Thu Dec 11 10:29:18 GMT 2003


 --- Jim Dixon <jdd at dixons.org> wrote: 
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, [iso-8859-1] Some Guy wrote:
Ok I'm going to fork this email into two topics.
1) What could an ISP do years down the road to protect us from floods.
2) What can we do now by clustering.

This email will be for number 2.

> Are you suggesting that you set up a VPN (virtual private network) between
> these nodes?  You could do this.  In that case you could use some one
> person's IP address to route everyone's traffic.  Let's call this guy the
> patsy.  The upside is a certain illusory security.  The downside is that
> if there are N participants in the VPN, then the patsy loses most of his
> bandwidth, say (N-1)/N of it because everyone's traffic is passing through
> it.  And also, when someone decides to DOS your VPN, the patsy loses ALL
> of his connectivity.
> 
> There is some moderate benefit to everyone else, but exactly how do you
> find people dumb enough to play the patsy?

:-).  Everyone plays the patsy part of the time.  Let's forget about bootstraping for a second and
just imagine the final status.  Let's say you're in charge of a node in a DHT with 10 neighbors,
and you have 10 machines in your trusted cluster.  The niehboring clusters each have a different
IP of your cluster, and you only have one of each thiers.  Cluster to cluster communication can
only happen between the two ambasidors.

Now if one of of the niehboring clusters is evil, they could flood your ambasidor.  Suddenly your
ambasidor to Spain mysteriously disappears!  Well don't talk to Spain any more.  The other nine of
your neighbors can still route across you and use the remaining 90% of your storage.


The point of the GOT design is to limit the number of neighbors that could potentially be evil. 
This allows a cluster with a limited number of IPs to keep some of them safe.

I hope we're seeing the same picture now.

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